Panel Notes: Psychology

 

Contents:

Mental Aspects of Living on a Space Station

But It Doesn’t Work That Way!: Gender Differences, Equality, and Fiction

Constructing a Fictional Religion

Biological Analogies for Cultural Differences

The Ship’s Shrink

Why Men Hate Sex

Religion and SF

Women’s Magic and Men’s Magic

Childrearing and SF

The Breeders vs. the Broads

Reading vs. Sex

What’s this Sex Scene Doing in My Fantasy?

 

 

 

Mental Aspects of Living on a Space Station (WindyCon 2003)

 

Skills matter more than rank

Must cooperate to survive

Rigid but egalitarian society

Need “wiggle room” for hobbies, religion, personal quirks, to keep mental health

Need to set boundaries, can’t just go along

Need to avoid stupid things that interfere with people not being able to do their work, or else they’ll get mad

Have very driven people who will need to do their own work and take on others’ work—have to order rest breaks

Want to be productive and busy

People compete to make interesting meals from the canned and dry food available

Need to get over petty things, like lack of flush toilets

People get reduced to basic things, like food and using the bathroom

Avoided politics, religion, and sex

Presence of women can provide social lubrication (men would talk with women when they argued with other men)

Married couples can do well, depending on the marriage; some make it, some break up

Someone should keep a good journal on mission

All-women crews can run into problems, since much of the work is physical and requires physical strength (what about in space stations with free fall?)

About two-thirds of qualified applicants are men

Like having spectrum of ages in crew

Young crew members tend to be upbeat but competitive

How does space station evolve with younger generations?

Zero-gravity space stations are a bad idea; space exploration should be done with artificial gravity

Need to be in good physical condition to explore planets

Zero-g gets old after a while

People can put with more than you might expect

Space station is an artificial environment—would there be sensory deprivation?

Space stations would be noisy—tradeoff between soundproofing vs. heat

Machines are always on, constant ventilation

People like spicy food

Music very popular—cuts out white noise, headphones provide privacy

Most people are gregarious—want to listen to music together

Most people preferred to be in social area, even if reading a book, but need to have some privacy too (or knowledge that they can get privacy at any time)

Need sense of humor, ability to laugh at yourself

Interaction of crew with mission control—crew can get irritated with MC very easily

Time lag demands that mission be led from front

Crew can be brought together against mission control/support

If crew morale holds, they can face all sorts of problems; if morale fails, the least problem will screw them up

Before sending a mission to Mars, test them as a team in the Artic or Antarctic first for a year

Mission control can’t overmother the crew; let the crew make their own decisions

  

But It Doesn’t Work That Way!: Gender Differences, Equality, and Fiction (WisCon 27—2003)

 

Are women taught to be weak? Physical strength is individual, not gendered.

Women’s strength is equal to men when different center of gravity taken into account

Different age groups have different conceptions of gender and strength

(Books have larger impact on kids than adults)

YA books aren’t as sanitized as they used to be

Can you really pretend that girls and boys are the same in a pre-industrial society?

(Wish-fulfillment)

Gender differences do exist

Some women are stronger than men; some aren’t

Women face difference tasks in life, especially in pre-industrial times

Pregnancy affects everything women do when they don’t have birth control; unrealistic to assume it doesn’t

In some societies, women bring babies into the field, men and women split chores, and women even dance with children on their backs, also men help raise toddlers

More variety in human cultures than SF writers can imagine – READ NON-FICTION!

Be selective in non-fiction that you read

Egalitarian cultures are myths

Western society is highly gendered

Hard to write gender-neutral society

Feminist work can teach children to take responsibility for their own happiness

REAL HUMANS SUCK; THEY WILL ALWAYS BE UGLY TO EACH OTHER!

In some non-Western cultures, women chose when they would become pregnant; in Western cultures, men chose when women became pregnant

(Other cultures had their problems too)

There are rape-free societies and rape-prone societies (guess which one we belong to?)

The average woman is weaker than the average man

Need to avoid stereotypes – men and women share attitudes

Strong women may seem like “funny-looking men” in fiction

The sexes are not ranked!

Men are assumed to be the norm

Too many books with ideal worlds may convince kids that that is real

Readers want books with both strong men and strong women

In Harry Potter, the kids are equal because they each have a gift

In SF, can set up a society where men are responsible for child-rearing

Pre-industrial societies had some types of birth control (herbs, abortions, breast-feeding)

Men tend to have aggressive mind-set; women tend to have defensive mind-set

Differences between women greater than differences between women and men

Characters have to be credible people who go against type

Women have other strengths besides that of “warrior women”

            Michelle West – Sun Sword books

Women change once they give birth and breastfeed

As men and women approach menopause, they tend to acquire traits of other gender

Western culture rough on the intersexed

Men may be better trained how to apply their strength

Look at characters’ individual talents

Human men may be designed for short-term bursts of works; women may be more designed for long-term work (based on average people)

Women may have menopause so they don’t die from childbirth before they finish raising all their children

Herd animals led by barren females

Hand-to-hand combat much different from modern combat

PMS affects women’s personalities

Societies need complementary skills from all their members

Stories have agendas

Writers should break out of traditional Western culture

Hormones influence brain development

Gender differences affect inheritance (Genetic imprinting)

Characters (and real people) need to consider whose approval are they searching for?

Sexual dimorphism more prevalent in our culture than in others (eg, height—what if women mated with short men?)

 

Constructing a Fictional Religion (WisCon 27—2003)

 

Five points of religion (tends to describe most religions, also includes magic, atheism, and science):

1. Belief in a deity with power beyond individual.

2. Body of doctrine or teaching.

3. Code of conduct.

4. Sacred stories

5. Religious rituals, both individual and group

 

Do fictional religions have to be based on what we know, or can be created out of whole cloth?

            “Nothing new under the sun,” all types of religions existed in one form or another

            people find metaphors for deities

            aliens might have something novel, but the author is still human

            If you invent something completely new, will it work as a human religion?

            Religion centered on most important aspects of existence (would need to look at context)

            Mature religions can self-revise themselves to keep surviving

            Humans may be restrained by their humanness

 

Examples in SF/Fantasy

            Bujold—The Curse of Challion – constructed well, but not enough backstory (could be due to POV)

            Herbert-- Dune – emerging religion

            Susan Harris – Women on Fire – Goddess develops throughout stories (online)

            Ursula le Guin – The Left Hand of Darkness – two religions, one emerging from other, integrated into world

            De Camp --  The Compleat Enchanter – have to figure out how other universe works, religion of magic helps hero evolve

           

Is Creating a Religion like World-Building, or is it different?

            Is it wallpaper (background), or does it play larger role?

            Religion can act as protagonist (Card – Lost Boys)

            Some authors set up “straw religion” (many authors have been anti-religion in their work)

            In SF, religion may seem absent; religion more visible and greater effect in fantasy, has a larger role in daily life

            Science or history may play role of religion

 

Have to start with human condition when creating religion

Religion gives order to chaos of universe

What would aliens be worried about and what would their gods do for them?

Mature religions have to deal with the mystic and unknown

Religion assumes natural world (or part of world) has intention or motive, which you don’t see in science (not sure I agree with this)

 

Does author have to assume that the religion in the novel is true?

Religions have people with different spiritual maturities

            People may regress to lower level when stressed

Even if religion is proved false, it still has effect on individual level

Religions may have chemical use (which provides the religious effects)

Do “rational explanations” have to do away with the spiritual effects?

 

Science addresses different questions than religion does

            Makes observations, measurements, etc.

Science can be practiced as religion, and that leads to bad science.

 

Humans live in world of symbols provided by language

Religion may be part of symbol-making

 

Religions may be high- or low-consequence

            Low consequence – Prachett’s Discworld – gods exist, but they don’t matter

            High consequence – Clarke’s aliens prove religions don’t exist

 

Molly Gloss – The Dazzle of Day

Religion seems more common in recent SF books

 

Structured and Unstructured Religions

            Religion can be “hidden” or built into society

            In hetergenous societies, easier to see religions

 

Biological Analogies for Cultural Differences (WisCon 27—2003)

 

On Star Trek, aliens are metaphors for nations

“race” used in different ways in fantasy and rest of world

Slan – gifted people have tentacles

Aliens don’t have to stand for a human race (Door Into Ocean)

Ethnic groups aren’t aliens

Aliens can be just like us, may need our help, may be a threat, or be like gods to us

By using aliens as metaphors, we can look at our problems objectively

Some topics can’t be explored very well with this metaphor

Star Trek allowed impossible interbreeding so they could tell stories about mixed children

Human races are socially constructed

Are “race” and “species” the same?

If we’re so heterogeneous, can aliens all be treated as same? (no)

Alien outside our morality, can be something we direct our vile onto

Human colonies can become biologically different (gives rise to different species)

Can aliens become metaphors for gender differences?

            Halfway Human

The Mount – metaphor for oppression, but doesn’t provide a real world solution

(might be working toward a solution)

most artistic metaphors are unconscious

in Star Trek, aliens are heroes when they act like humans

races may hate each other when they’re too much alike

 

The Ship’s Shrink (WisCon 27—2003)

 

Psychologist can communicate with aliens

May need two to support each other

Psychologist may need to act as “developmental expert” to help crew adjust to new conditions (or long-term living in spaceships)

In Star Trek: The Next Generation, Troi seems remote from crew; Guinan interacts with crew more due to her role as bartender

Part of medical team

Involved in debriefings

Work with chaplains

Prepare crew for capture/interrogation

Help crew deal with uncertainty/novelty

Would need staff

Don’t want “mental health moles”

Psychologists will interact with clients/people associated with clients; need confidentiality

Submarine missions: 3-6 months under extreme conditions and extreme conditions

            30- 40 year duration for starship missions

Psychologists would need to pre-screen people before mission starts

            Boot camp is brain-washing

            99% of men have to be “recycled” through boot camp with their group after two weeks of combat because situation is so unnatural

            Part of problem with Viet Nam was that troops didn’t get rotated out with their troops

Can people be genetically modified to make them more suitable for space travel?

May be better on some missions to let commander consult with psychologists on Earth via radio than to send a psychologist on the mission (but the psychologist won’t be able to work directly with client)

Psychologists need to be competent

Psychologists’ work can be subtle, hidden, and take a long time

Crew needs to have private space

First space psychologists may tend to be women (women may be more likely to make it through the screening)

  

Why Men Hate Sex (WisCon 29—2005)

 

Women analyze sex more than men do

Parents worry more about their daughters than they do their sons

Boys organize themselves around displaying their strength (so they’re not fags)

Women think they should be much thinner than men really want them to me

Girls get power among themselves by being pretty and girly

Parents think girls are meaner to each other than they think boys are

Boys go to great pains to avoid vulnerability

Things don’t fall into neat categories

Men are trained to approach sex in a conquering way

If you want to deal with rape (or stop it), start with men and boys

Feminism has appropriated many male virtues, like strength and independence

Women have big influence on men and can show them what works and how to be a full human being

Gallantry is another type of power men have over women

More men need to be part of teaching other men

Men need to organize as men

Both men and women need “rites of passage”

Male rites of passage to adulthood often involve physical effort

Both genders need to be empowered for feminism to work

Need more discussion about boundaries

People need to be able to say, “yes,” “no,” or “not right now, maybe later”

Nice guys don’t reproduce

Men are expected to make the first move (risk rejection)

Need outlets for anger and violence (such as sports)

Sensitive men may fear their own anger or violence

Need to have diversity of male models

Women can admit that they don’t like sex under some circumstances; men can’t

If you can’t say “no,” you’re not able to really say “yes”

Men under pressure to perform

Men earn points by “doing” women

 

 

Religion and SF (WisCon 29—2005)

 

Religion has a core of beliefs and uses a hierarchy

SF and religion are often at odds

Many religious people may feel SF distracts readers from God’s will

SF settings may have aliens—people who believe in literal interpretation of Genesis find this heretical

Willing suspicion of disbelief allows you to read without believing

Religion is conservative; SF, speculative (dangerous to religion)

SF encourages tolerance of difference and questioning

Many people believe extranatural powers come from either God or the Devil

(and they consider magic to be from the Devil—a.k.a Harry Potter)

Harry Potter represents magic as a tool to be used for either good or evil

Conflict between SF and religion both solvable and insolvable

            SF can show religion and religious beliefs in positive light

            People on both sides are free and should be free to portray the other in a negative light

Both sides are full of fear and pride (part of seven deadly sins?)

Not all Christians believe the extreme views

Not all types of Christianity insist on literal interpretation of Bible

Dogmatism leads to lack of questioning

Need to be aware of what’s possible in our world before you’re able to be aware of what’s possible in a fictional world

Monotheistic religion is often used as a villain in SF

Christians aren’t just the Religious Right

Harry Potter magic is based on medieval/Renaissance magic (frex, with Latin)

Magic can be treated like a technology (works the same for everyone) or as something inexplicable (prayer’s result may vary depending on faith of the person praying)

Religious right is also hostile towards technology

People can put themselves through logical convolutions to justify beliefs

People can be black-and-white about almost everything

SF is about questions; faith, accepting the questions

All Christians shouldn’t be made out to be bad people

Is Christianity’s hatred of SF also linked to rise of feminism?

 

Women’s Magic and Men’s Magic (WisCon 30—2006)

            Most magic isn’t gendered; the authors just leave women out

            Terry Prachett: male magic is academic and messy, women’s magic is not doing stuff and common sense (headology); these are really different ways of approaching the world

            MZB: women’s magic is vulnerable (can lose it if they engage in sex, frex), while men’s isn’t

            Peter Pan—Wendy stuck with cleaning house, Tinkerbell is more of a handmaiden to Peter Pan (all-powerful wizard)

Magic has to be used in a positive way; don’t let it take you over

Male may have magic and the woman helps him come into his own.

Formula magic links back to alchemy (male study)

Depends on magical tradition you’re talking about

Spells can be viewed as recipes

Folk magic relates to women’s issues, like fertility

In books, we can have any gender doing anything we want them to; this has become more common recently (but must distinguish between tradition and recent magics)

Scientific view of magic considers conservation of mass, etc.

Some types of magic require a male and female working together

In Icelandic tradition, females practice magic, and men that copy them are considered effeminate and evil

In Algouquin tribes, magic is always practiced by male shamans

Some systems of magic are used to protect children

Some magic is personal and comes out of the strength of the characters

Is magic linked to biological body? What happens to transgender or hermaphrodites?

Some men had to adopt two genders to practice magic (shamans)

Inuit—old women have enough power to do anything

 

Childrearing and SF (WisCon 30—2006)

 

Childrearing no longer shared by neighbors, extended family, and community

Children can be used as part of the plot (may solve problems)

In some books, gender roles of childrearing may be blurred (men may breastfeed)

In some societies, government regulates number of children and how many you can have

Women may choose to be careerline or motherline

May lose “coolness points” when children limit what you can do

Need a positive approach to the importance of pregnancy and the value of creating life

Caretakers don’t get paid what they’re worth

Men who choose to stay home with children are at a disadvantage the same way as women are

Several solutions have been tried and don’t work

Artificial reproduction would lead to problems with attachment, “finishing” immune system, etc.,

Someone has to take care of the children (robot nanny?)

The Diamond Age—features a book that parents and teaches

Earlier feminist movements disembodied women from their bodies and experiences; now the trend is to embrace your body

 

 

The Breeders vs. the Broads (WisCon 30—2006)

 

It’s OK to not have kids; you can still make a contribution

Women are valued as long as they act like men, but once they start acting like women (e.g., becoming a mother), they become second-rate

Jane Yolen—just went ahead and kept her name and just went ahead and wrote

Women’s movement was supposed to let us make our own choices, not force us into a traditional or non-traditional role (choose the pattern of your own life)

Models of “can-do” women are positive role models

Women in the past had trouble leaving their husbands (community forced them to go back to abusive husbands, shamed them for leaving, etc)

If you don’t want them, don’t have them

Women have had to make rough choices with their children

Women may not be comfortable choosing not to have children

Women’s right are directly linked to control of their fertility (low fertility = higher rights, high fertility = low rights)

Information given to women about menstruation didn’t explain sex to them

Roe v. Wade is correlated with a reduced crime rate

30% of college-educated women don’t have children (may allow for return of patrichary?)

Having children makes you realize that you can’t have it all or do it all

Having children makes it very hard to write

Women writers have to make time to write; male writers depend on their wives

You write if you really want to; otherwise you make excuses (your job, your family, etc.)

It’s harder for women who write/publish after starting a family; they feel as if they’re taking time away from their family

Women who write before starting a family “train” their families to expect them to write

No matter what choice you make, someone will think you did the wrong thing

Working mothers don’t get doted on (they’re almost never home)

Some women have to raise children with special needs

Men wish to have more time with their children too

Minimum wages need to be a livable wage for a family

System sets up conflict between those you have children and those who don’t (e.g., who gets first choice of vacation time)

Double standard –pressure to breed, but no support for the children afterwards

Need to look after older women who have no family to take care of them

Women today have more choices and opportunities than they used to

 

Reading vs. Sex (WisCon 30—2006)

 

Experiences both very hard to describe

Readers withdrawn from the world and not interacting with anyone else

“you” disappear during both activities

Reduced time for reading

Need intellectual engagement and physical contact with other people

Touching can be a strong need and can substitute for sex

Books act as a shield against the world

Sex doesn’t show up as a need until puberty, but the body isn’t hardwired to require reading

(can fulfill all of your Maslow hierarchical needs without reading)

Sex and spirituality are intertwined

 

What’s this Sex Scene Doing in My Fantasy? (World Fantasy 2005)

 

Fictional sex different from real-life sex

Women and men fantastize about different things

Fantasy is about letting go of responsibility (other person does all the work, you get all the fun)

Need to link sex scene to the characters (should be part of the character arc)

(or does it always need to be relevant?)

Men think about sex every nine minutes

Little difference between porn and erotica

Women’s sex fantasies take longer; men have shorter sex fantasies that take longer and involve independent body parts

Sex in fiction isn’t intrinsic; in real life, sex is always there

Most sex scenes should be skipped, since most sex scenes aren’t written well

Most sex scenes are written in the wrong frame of mind and people don’t pay attention to what’s on the page

Need to work out a sex scene as though it’s an action scene

Focus on what the sex feels like, not what’s happening (but strike a balance)

Romance sex scenes are very long, involve senses and sensation, invoke backstory

Final sex scene in romance shows how the couple has changed, focuses on foreplay (for woman), man must please woman, woman comes first, then man, then both come together

Humor blows off tension

In older stories, sex was underground

Sex scenes can be boring (use same language over and over), need to work to make them interesting

Most people only have one or two scenes of erotica in them before they start repeating themselves

Writers used to make ends meet by writing sex books (very bad, written very quickly), so once they were able to include sex in normal fiction, they fell back on old tropes

Romance writers keep sex fresh by involving the emotions

Must a sex scene be hot? It depends on its purpose

A sex scene should do more than just make you hot; it should forward the plot

Sex scenes can be “lousy” sex to create conflict

Have a formula to break your formulas

Romance has nothing but characters

Small press has more of gay/lesbian erotica than mainstream press

www.Ellorascave.com

audience has evolved to being more comfortable with alien sex and gay sex

mainstream YA has more sex, including gay sex

many SF books have gay content that’s not mentioned on the cover

SF books sell in gay bookstores too

 

Copyright 2003-2006 Sandra M. Ulbrich

 

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